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  • Christian Carnival CCCXL

    Welcome to the August 11, 2010 edition of the Christian Carnival, number CCCXL. As I did last time I hosted, I’m presenting the entries with some editorial comment. I’ve put a bit of humor, perhaps just a tiny little bit of snarkiness in a couple of cases, but these were all good posts, so I hope you can all take it in the spirit in which I intended it–to encourage people to read your posts. The posts are generally in the order in which the submissions were received.

    The blog’s tag-line is “A woman-to-women conversation on all facets of life,” so maybe I shouldn’t admit to enjoying it, but I love the book of Ezekiel so much that I did a 2 quarter hour independent study just on the first chapter as an undergraduate. In the post The Second Ezekiel Aoide-Melete-Mneme discusses reading Ezekiel with the gospels. She notes that “even an avid Bible reader can learn something new.” As my wife would say, “Ya think?”


    FMF jumps into a controversial issue with the post Is Bankruptcy Ever Okay for a Christian? and say it’s a very hot topic. Read the comments to see how hot. I was surprised at how long it took someone to mention sabbatical years and the Jubilee, and how small a role that part of scripture played in the debate. As a quick note, the lender knows the impact of the sabbatical year and yet the debtor doesn’t get off completely free, i.e. without consequences. It’s an interesting exercise in Biblical interpretation to apply rules from a culture in which lending at interest was forbidden to a culture practically founded on that practice. In any case, read the comments–they’re quite interesting!

    OK, this next one has some commercial side to it, but it has to do with knitting, so it can’t be all bad. Yes, when I was younger, I learned to knit. My mother thought boys needed to know some knitting, cooking, and sewing. I managed some knitting and sewing. I can almost boil water without burning it. Roy Twogood Jr. presents Prayer Items & Prayer Knitting Group Project which talks about knitting prayer items. (If “prayer items” doesn’t make sense to you, read the post!) So prayer, knitting, groups, helping people–why not?

    Some of you might not have warm feelings about prayer items, but what I can’t figure out is why top 10 lists are so popular. Oh well, Mike Vogt presents Top 10 Wedding Songs of All-Time posted at Christian Colleges Online. I say, some yes, some no, my top ten list would be different, were I to make such a list, but I didn’t need 10 songs for my wedding, so there!

    Ten items weren’t enough for Carrie Oakley, who presented us with 50 Free Activities to Improve Your Christian Marriage posted at Online Colleges. She said, “The article has listed 50 free activities to improve your Christian marriage that anyone can do. Have a look to get you and your husband or wife talking, sharing, and communicating like never before.” I say that my top nine are #37-45.

    CoolHappyGuy thinks tithing isn’t so obsolete as some of us think, in a post titled, appropriately, Is Tithing Obsolete? posted at Wealth From The Bible.com. He discusses it drawing on both the Old and New Testaments. Since I’m already on the record with my opinion, I’ll leave it at that.

    I know a number of people who don’t know how to say “no.” Sometimes I wish they would. On the other hand, there are times to say yes. In which category are you? Joe Plemon presents “No” is a Great Word. Five Biblical Reasons For Using It posted at Personal Finance By The Book. He says, “Some Christians may think that serving others means always saying “yes”. The bible gives us several good reasons to say ‘no’.” Each reason deserves consideration and discussion on its own, but this is a carnival, not one of my rambling posts!

    In Blind Spot posted at Ignorant Historian, Ronnica writes about blind spots. For better or worse, she used an illustration from politics (it’s one I happen to find agreeable), and that’s what the comments were about. Go read the post, but try to answer the question at the end. What is your blind spot?

    Kim Staudenraus presents Secrecy Kills Trust posted at Tranquility Financial Visioning Are you looking for total success in a marriage? This article discuss how that can happen and how a marriage can be healed with openness and honesty. I have to note that I would endorse everything said about secrecy, though I know of “good” motivations for secrecy, such as keeping a spouse from worrying, yet even secrecy with good intentions goes bad. (And there are problems with the goodness of the intentions!) My wife and I now operate on two rules for our finances. We don’t discuss them before 9 am and after 9 pm, and we keep one another informed.

    I like 2 Corinthians, so I loved reading Meghan Macy’s post But not crushed posted at One41 Ministries. This is a good encouraging word from a great letter of Paul’s.

    And on that note, some encouragement from my own wife’s blog, Jody Along the Path. She wrote And Life Does God On, talking about trust using a number of Biblical examples.

    BeWisest.compresents Spiritual warfare, using some examples of possible compromise with sin, and calling on us all to defend ourselves with God’s armor.

    In Evangelicals self-sabotage when discussing homosexuality, Ali asks: “Does Western culture today consider Evangelical Christians to have an oppressive and hate-filled voice toward homosexuality just because they dislike Christians, or is there something in the way Evangelicals put their views across that feeds that perception?” That brings up the age old question, “How much of the opposition is the message, and how much is to the way it’s presented?” In modern terms, framing.

    OK, if the question presented in this blog (read to the end) doesn’t challenge you, something’s wrong. NCSue presents Who’s being faithful? posted at IN HIM WE LIVE AND MOVE AND HAVE OUR BEING.

    Often the most difficult part of Bible study is finding the right questions. We’re often so busy with the answers that we don’t think about the questions. Justin Allison presents 1 Corinthians 3 Bible Study posted at Old Testament Ecology, and it’s a question based Bible study, with a question before and a number of questions afterward. Question the questions!

    How many times have you called in to a technical support line for assistance with a specific item, and found yourself talking to someone who is working “from the script?” The person you’re talking to really doesn’t know anything more about the product than you do, they just have a script —a set of questions and specific actions written down on a piece of paper, or in a document they’re reading from a computer screen.

    I’m raising my hand. That’s how Russ White begins his post titled simply Wisdom on Thinking in Christ. You may be surprised at how this continues.

    C. S. Lewis is always good for some wonderful turns of phrase. You have to enjoy him even when you don’t agree, and here I do agree. Barry Wallace presents The unrelenting approach of God posted at who am i?. Lewis described his conversion in striking terms–striking terms indeed!

    I grew up as the son of missionary parents and I have participated in and led short term mission teams. I can really appreciate what Ridge Burns says in his post Support Teams posted at Ridge’s Blog. Go read it. If you’re not involved in supporting anyone in missions, consider getting started.

    Crystal Rodli presents Luke 22: Do Peter and Job Have Something in Common? posted at In A Clay Pot. This one really interested me because I had never thought to connect the two verses. But they do look like they are connected, don’t they? (OK, go read it first, then you’ll know.)

    Chris Brooks is to be congratulated on presenting Loving Your Illegal Neighbor posted at Homeward Bound, in which he asks: “Is the Golden Rule the solution to our immigration woes?” But sometimes answers are not that simple. Or perhaps it’s more that simple answers, like the Golden Rule, force us into more complex thinking and action.

    Dave Taylor presents Back on the wheel at Disciple’s Journal. He asks “Is it possible that the Lord’s priority at the moment might be to remake his messengers like clay on the potter’s wheel, shaping them ‘as seems best to him’ (Jer. 18:4)?” I’d like to point to one question in his post: What if the Lord didn’t want more of the church as it is? I’ve heard complaints from church members about God not being present or God not acting or blessing. Perhaps we need to ask this question.

    Bob McDonald presents The middle of the book – a brief retrospect. It’s the summary of the marathon he is on to read and publish the new frames in every Psalm before the middle of September. And with the work Bob does on a Psalm, that’s an ambitious goal!

    I’m adding a couple of posts that weren’t submitted, but I thought were worth noting.

    The first comes from Allan Bevere, and I think it makes an important point. Often we are debating “two sides” of an issue, when the issue hasn’t been properly defined or the question properly asked. Allan challenges us to question the questions and debate the debates.

    My friend Greg May reminds us of the importance of keeping up our relationship with God in Now It’s the Boat Motor. Greg has a down-to-earth style and message that I really enjoy, especially as a change from the sort of stuff I write!

    While Jeremy faithfully announced the carnival he didn’t nominate his own post Ambiguity in Indirect Discourse. For what it’s worth, I do read Hebrew, and I had always interpreted that particular case as a quotation of Jehu, in other words, Jehu didn’t repeat all the words of he prophet to his staff. But I’m going to look at it some more and see if I’ve been right or wrong.

    And finally, I present another note about C. S. Lewis. No, I didn’t know Barry Wallace would go and do likewise before I chose this post, but I’m sticking with it. It’s On C. S. Lewis, and the link to N. T. Wright’s comments is more valuable than my notes, but I did want to say why so much of what Bishop Wright had to say resonated with me.

    That concludes this edition. Submit your blog article to the next edition of christian carnival ii using our carnival submission form. Future hosts can be found here and archives are here.

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  • Christian Carnival – Last Call

    Christian Carnival CCCXL will be hosted here at The Jevlir Caravansary.  Please submit your posts using the form at blogcarnival.com by midnight tonight.  There is still plenty of room in the carnival.

    My previous experience has been that I have to reject posts either because they do not fall within the last week before the carnival or that the blogger is not Christian.  Please make sure your posts are dated within one week of tonight and that they come from a blog that is identifiably Christian.  They don’t have to be on a specifically Christian topic, however.  You can find participation instructions here.

    Otherwise, have fun!

  • Christian Carnival CCCXXXIX Posted

    … at Crossroads: Where Faith and Inquiry Meet.

    Next week’s carnival will be right here at The Jevlir Caravansary.  Please submit your posts using the form at blogcarnival.com.

  • The God-Talk Club Defines Cult – I

    Ellen brought everyone their food and then sat down herself and joined the group.  They were no longer surprised, as this had become a habit with the group, and they all knew Ellen had an arrangement with the owner.

    “So why don’t you just let one of the other waitresses serve us?” asked Bob.

    “Because I like to do it.  It just feels right.”

    “I’m still surprised that you just work as a waitress.  You’re so smart; you could do anything you want,” said Bob.

    “But what I want to do is this.  Why is that so hard for you to understand?”

    “Bob’s a bit of an elitist,” put in Mac. “According to him, if you’re smart enough to be a scientist, then you should.”

    “I’m not an elitist; I just like people to live up to their potential.”  It was rare for Bob to be offended, but he looked offended now.

    “But doesn’t it matter what they want to do?” asked Mandy.

    “I just can’t see how someone would want to be a waitress if she had other options,” Bob replied, but he was looking at Ellen.

    “I think what I want to do is the second most important thing, right after what God wants me to do,” said Ellen.

    Jerry said “Amen.”  Bob favored Ellen with a disgusted look.  Mac said, “Well, I agree with the ‘want’ part, anyhow.”

    “Ellen,” said Justine, “Why don’t you tell us what you like about being a waitress.”

    “I like making people happy.  I like meeting people and getting a chance to chat with them.  Sometimes it’s silly, sometimes it’s annoying, but I’m learning alot while I work here.  It also gives me a chance to be a witness.”

    “You mean your boss is OK with you proselytizing?” asked Bob.

    “No, not at all.  I don’t want to proselytize.  But my regular customers eventually find out who I am.  Tell me, Jerry.  Haven’t your conversations with me changed your view of Mormons?”

    “Well, I still think you’re wrong.”  He grinned.  “But yes, I think I do understand better how you can believe what you do.”

    “See?” said Ellen.  “I’m doing some good here.  How many other jobs would have given me a chance to talk to Jerry.  And I’ve learned many things from him as well.  And from all of you.”

    There was a pause.

    “But that’s just a benefit.  I enjoy serving people.  That’s why I bring the food here even when I’m not on the clock.”  She paused and grinned mischievously at Bob.  “Besides, it annoys you, and I admit I enjoy annoying you.”

    There was a moment while everyone was stunned.  Ellen had never needled anyone; it just seemed contrary to her personality.  They wondered what would happen.  Bob was already offended by Mac’s charge of elitism.  Would this make him really angry?

    But Ellen had read him right.  Bob laughed.  “OK, you win this round,” he said.  “But I’ll be back for more.”

    “But I have a question for all you good Christians,” he continued, “And it has to do with Ellen and her faith.”

    “Shoot!” said Mandy.

    “Ellen is LDS.  I read up on their beliefs on the internet the other day.  I found any number of Christian sites that attack their beliefs and call them a cult.  What makes a group a ‘cult’?”

    [For official LDS information, see mormon.org.  For an example of an orthodox Christian apologetics ministry, see Christian Research Institute.]

    “Well,” said Jerry, “I call any organization that claims to be Christian but doesn’t uphold orthodox Christian doctrines, such as the Trinity, the authority of the Bible, the incarnation, they atonement, and salvation by faith a cult.  Often they’re smaller organizations and demand extreme personal loyalty.”

    “There are more than 13 million Mormons.  That’s not small as denominations go.”

    “Doesn’t that offend you?” asked Bob.  “He’s just called you a cult, and he certainly doesn’t think that’s a good thing.”

    “Well,” Ellen replied, “You think my beliefs are stupid, don’t you?”

    “Well … ”

    “Be honest!  I know you think all of us believers are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.”

    “OK, I’ll be honest.  I can’t imagine how you can both be as intelligent as you all appear to be and still believe such ridiculous things.”

    “So why should I be offended? I believe that through Joseph Smith and our movement God chose to restore the true gospel that had been lost by the churches of ‘orthodox’ Christianity.”

    “But you don’t accept the doctrine of the Trinity, and you accept scripture that is not part of the Bible,” Jerry exclaimed.

    “But where in the Bible is the Trinity defined?  We accept that there are three distinct beings, united in purpose.  I think we’re more biblical than you are.  Your doctrines come from early church councils, not the Bible.”

    “But the Trinity is a Biblical doctrine.  All the elements of the doctrine are there in scripture.  All the councils did was pull the definition together into one place.”

    “And I believe the councils were wrong,” said Ellen.

    “And you say you believe this on the basis of the Bible, but in reality you base your belief on the Book of Mormon.”

    “I believe God revealed himself through the Book of Mormon, yes.  But that doesn’t mean I don’t believe the Bible.  I believe orthodox Christianity did not preserve the Bible as they should.  And you have added much to the Bible through various writers and your confession of faith.”

    “No, confessions of faith and other writers don’t supercede the Bible.  You accept the Book of Mormon as superceding the teaching of the Bible.”

    “I could debate that, but I’d rather ask you whether your church requires people to accept the Westminster Confession.  Do you?”

    “Well, yes, we do.”

    “Why don’t you just ask them to accept what the Bible teaches? Why do you have to define it more?”

    “Well, because many people have misinterpreted the Bible.”

    “I agree.  We just disagree as to who has it right and who has it wrong.”

    “Which always makes it interesting for an atheist such as myself,” said Bob.  “I not only have the question of whether there’s a god or not, I have a variety of different Christians, all of them claiming I should believe their particular detailed doctrines.”

    “I’d suggest that the question of God’s existence might be primary, and that most of the rest of these discussions are rather trivial,” said Mandy.

    “Trivial?” exclaimed Jerry.

    Bob laughed.  “You see, you guys can’t even agree on what’s important.”

    “I’d suggest that you get to decide what’s important,” said Mandy.  “If you look at this as a decision between various groups of people and whether they understand God correctly or not, you’ll always find things confusing.  A spiritual journey is personal in so many ways.  Who you make the journey with is just one aspect.  You don’t even have to agree on everything in order to enjoy the journey together.”

    [To be continued …]

  • Christian Carnival CCCXXXII

    Welcome to the June 16, 2010 of the Christian Carnival, #322. Today I’m just presenting the posts in order with a little bit of commentary. I enjoyed a number of these posts. I hope you do as well.

    Starting us out with a controversial topic, we have Rodney Olsen who presents some thoughts on how important it is to communicate on controversial issues, such as abortion, and  presents Rethinking Abortion, including an interview (audio) with a Christian politician in Western Australia who is trying to reduce the number of abortions in his state.  I admit I enjoy a vigorous and yet respectful debate on such a topic, though the opportunity to have one is quite rare.

    Anyone else have trouble saving?  Yes, it’s hard to stretch that paycheck!  FMF presents The Seven Pillars of Financial Success, Pillar 4: Saving for the Future, telling us that saving a portion of what you make is one of the key biblical financial pillars.  I always love posts that start from Proverbs!

    John Fraiser chooses to take on C. S. Lewis and his Lord? Lunatic? Demon?? or? trilemma.  He finds some value in the argument but doesn’t think it will stand up as an all encompassing argument.  Be sure to read down into the comments for some further clarity.

    Warren Nicholson Y. Fernando finds a prayer in a Beatles song, and presents his faith interpreted through the song with  In My Hour In Need: Let It Be By The Beatles posted at 24k Forever!!!!.

    If you’re like me and don’t think that much of folks preaching out on street corners or in the park, then you need to read Street Preaching and “Church in the Park” posted at who am i? by Barry Wallace.

    Michael Fierro presented Luke 7, the most wondrous chapter in the Bible posted at New Testament in Review, but it’s outside the date range for the carnival, so I’m linking to Cliffhanger:  What does Paul say (Acts 22-24), which does fall in the right date range.  (Alright already!  He got two links.  He’s blogging through the New Testament–can’t resist that.  Sue me!)

    I find that time in the car often provides the best opportunities to have a conversation with my wife, and Ridge Burns found the same thing to be true in his post Conversation.

    Andrew says he used to wonder why Christians were so anxious to share.  He explains it in Why Christians are eager to share Christ. Are you eager?  If not, this post will tell you why you should be!

    The story of Esau selling his birthright is pretty well known, but what was the big issue with that action.  Russ White presents Esau’s Birthright.  He says,  “The selling of Esau’s birthright seems straightforward–but what we to make of it? Is it more than just one story among many along the road to the creation of Israel?”

    Clay at Christian Colleges presents a list of Top 10 Biblical Learning Blogs.  He says, “God is everywhere. So, it should come as no surprise to find Him on the internet also. Hey, He’s probably even got his own Twitter account. The Big Man Upstairs has gone high tech, and here are the Top Ten Biblical Learning Blogs to help you ‘Follow’ Him.”  I’m pretty biased about the list since my Participatory Bible Study blog is in first position!

    Brian Marchionni presents 5 Must Read Bible Scholars (for the non-academic) posted at Boston Bible Geeks, saying, “If people in your church are wanting to learn from top-notch Bible scholars without forking over the big bucks to go to seminary, these 5 scholars would be a great place to start (with reading suggestions).”  That’s what he said.  What I say is get on over there and argue about who should or shouldn’t be on the list!  That’s where the real fun is.

    michelle is blown away by the greatness of God, so she tells us about Answered Prayers. I think it’s hard to go wrong with personal testimony, so I love it!

    Weekend Fisher explains why she is not a Mormon in a post titled (unsurprisingly) Why I am not a Mormon: Introduction posted at Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength.  Just the question I was going to ask!  She describes it this way: “A Christian takes a look at why she is not a Mormon — both for the sake of the earnest, kind Mormons she has known and for the sake of the agnostics who use the Book of Mormon as a smoke-screen.”

    Dave Taylor believes that if we don’t continue to exercise faith, it atrophies until it degenerates into just an intellectual concept, something more likely to lead to strife, friction, and pointless controversies.  He explains why in his post Going, going …gone? saying, Disciple’s Journal. I’ve always wondered why this should be controversial. Of course we don’t always like it–exercise is hard! But the Bible says it a number of times. Dave Taylor lays it out point by point.

    And since I didn’t get anything worthwhile posted on my own blogs, let me present Sometimes You Have to Act First, which I wrote for the World Prayr blog. That one goes well with the one about active discipleship that came before.

    That concludes this edition. Submit your blog article to the next edition of christian carnival ii using our carnival submission form. Past posts and future hosts can be found on our blog carnival index page.

    

  • Christian Carnival CCCXXXI Posted

    … at Fish and Cans.  Check it out.  There’s lots of good stuff.  Next week, the carnival will be hosted right here at the Jevlir Caravansary.  Yes, I really am back to blogging again!

  • The Last Sandwich

    “I’d like the sandwich you have in that bag.”

    It was the odd way he said it and the foreign accent that made her stop and look to her left.  He was sitting on the sidewalk with his back to the wall.  He looked thin, and his clothes were worn, but generally clean and carefully patched.

    “This is for my son,” she said.  “If it was for me I’d give it to you.”

    “You can get another sandwich for your son,” he said.

    “No, I can’t.  I used the last of my money to buy this one.  I have no idea where I’ll get any money to buy any more food.”

    “Still, I’m asking you for the sandwich.” He didn’t sound angry.  He didn’t sound cruel, as though gloating over taking the last food from a child.  He just sounded matter-of-fact, like it was a routine request.

    “How can you ask me this?”  She was angry now.  She didn’t know why she continued the conversation, but she did.  “Are you a cruel man?”

    “I am a man of God,” he said.  “I’m asking you to provide for me.  God says that if you grant my request you will never again lack food for your son.”

    She looked at him for a moment.  She somehow couldn’t think of him as a fraud.  She held the bag out to him.

    She was a block down the street before she started to wonder how she would face her son and reached into her pocket.


    How do you react to the man’s request and this woman’s response? What, if anything did she find in her pocket?

    Now read 1 Kings 17:8-15. You probably already recognized the story, but go ahead and read it anyhow. Is your reaction to the Bible story different? Why or why not?

  • Resuming Blogging

    I have been away from personal blogging for over two months due to an extremely busy schedule working with my publishing company, Energion Publications. I’ll be posting more about what I’ve been busy with on my Threads from Henry’s Web blog.